hi anoop

      as the golden rule says to get big we nned to eat big and train heavy .but i still dont undesrtand when we are trying to gain weigh why should we select low fat foods and avoid high fat foods . weight gain is actually result of sulphrus calories which your body converts into fat . if uare eating low fat food also it will be converted into fat ultimatily.  any way body wontnt convert it into muscle . end of the day .its going to beconverted to fat only.is there some thing we call flesh apart from muscle and fat .this must be the silliest quiestion some one had ever posted here in this site hehehehehehe

regards

vj_bal - 03 October 2009 12:11 PM

hi anoop

      as the golden rule says to get big we nned to eat big and train heavy .but i still dont undesrtand when we are trying to gain weigh why should we select low fat foods and avoid high fat foods . weight gain is actually result of sulphrus calories which your body converts into fat . if uare eating low fat food also it will be converted into fat ultimatily.  any way body wontnt convert it into muscle . end of the day .its going to beconverted to fat only.is there some thing we call flesh apart from muscle and fat .this must be the silliest quiestion some one had ever posted here in this site hehehehehehe
regards

I think that’s a good question.

Your question is equally applicable to the context of losing weight. Since it’s all calories in and out, does it matter if you get all your calories from fat? You need protein, carbs and fat in your diet because each has major functions in the body.For example, you cannot build muscle without amino acids nor can you make hormones and cell membranes without fat. If you go without carbs, you might go into ketosis. Hence the reason there are percentage recommendations for fat, proten and carbs.

So even if you are eating beyond maintenance, you need to make sure you are getting enough of protein, carbs, & fat. The problem with too much fat is since 1 gm of fat is 9 calories compared to 4 calories of protein and carbs, it is so easy to have too many calories with high-fat diet and end up too fat for your liking.  Generally, 25-35% of your calories should come from fat.

I hope it helps. Let me know if it doesn’t make any sense.

i’ve always wondered - everything i learn about nutrition goes against norms that i’ve learned since grade school
regarding to the food pyramid, isn’t it advocating way too many carbs and too little protein/fat?

I speculate it doesn’t take athletes into account, but are that many carbs beneficial for the sedentary population? since carbs are used mostly for fuel, shouldn’t their requirements for carbohydrates be even more limited?

Hi Mumford,

It’s a good question.

I think the researchers are slowly understanding the importance of higher protein intake than what it is recommended. Als well, the food pyramid do not really emphasize the quality of fats; it is only concerned about the quantity. If you look at the Mediterranean diets, the fat is as high as 45% percent and still the people there have the lowest heart disease rates across the globe. They consume a lot of omega 3’s and unsaturated fats which goes on to emphasize that the quality of fat matters a lot.

By keeping fat low and protein low, they had to keep the percentage of carbs high. We might see some changes in the next food pyramid.

hi,
What are some good foods to raise my fat with then? I still want to stay in the same calorie range of about 3000, so what foods on my diet should I replace and with what should I replace them with? I am taking Higher Power Omega’s 3 times a day, just as a note. Try to help me out just don’t tell me my diet plan is awful, offer suggestions thats why I am on the forums to get help not just to here about how much I don’t know.

I am a bit confused. I weighed about 208 three weeks ago and have quite a gut. I started heavy weight training, the four day split as per Dorian Yates, and started a serious bodybuilding diet, 5 meals a day, loads of meat, Protein powder, creatine and so on. I want to get loads bigger and my bodyfat go down a bit over the long run. Some say losing fat and gaining muscle need to be done separately.

My initial weight gain, maybe the creatine was 9lbs. Should I diet and get lean and small first and then go on a mass gaining diet later. I am quite fat but it is really only my belly. Any advice please?

johansmith - 01 July 2010 07:17 AM

Should I diet and get lean and small first and then go on a mass gaining diet later. I am quite fat but it is really only my belly. Any advice please?

The optimal body fat level is between 10-15%
If you in this range you just fine
If not - consider to lean yourself to this range first.