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Actual scientific responses to Tim Ferris’ experiment
Posted: 14 January 2011 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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i don’t have any photos. But you can easily lose 10-12 lbs of water by glycogen depletion which is pretty common. . And if you really load on carbs, you can lose even more. And he has written about using diuretics, so he will lose even more.

Once you are depleted, you can load twice the amount of carbs ( super compensation) and hence almost double the weight gain.

First none even know for sure if the Colorado experiment done 30 years back was true. There is a lot of talk about how he was taking drugs that time, he was recovering from disease and had lost 30 lbs and so forth. When people have vested interests and then go on to make these impressive claims, nobody really bothers to believe them.

I think all those alternative cancer treatments have more anecdotal evidence than this Colorado crap.

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Posted: 14 January 2011 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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anoopbal - 14 January 2011 12:54 PM

i don’t have any photos. But you can easily lose 10-12 lbs of water by glycogen depletion which is pretty common. . And if you really load on carbs, you can lose even more. And he has written about using diuretics, so he will lose even more.

Once you are depleted, you can load twice the amount of carbs ( super compensation) and hence almost double the weight gain.

First none even know for sure if the Colorado experiment done 30 years back was true. There is a lot of talk about how he was taking drugs that time, he was recovering from disease and had lost 30 lbs and so forth. When people have vested interests and then go on to make these impressive claims, nobody really bothers to believe them.

I think all those alternative cancer treatments have more anecdotal evidence than this Colorado crap.

Too bad about the photos. I would have liked to compare the visual effect. You might be able to gain the same amount of weight as Ferris with water manipulation, but will it look the same?

I agree on the ‘vested interests’ issue in these experiments and your comments on the Colorado experiment. (they also used special lighting for the after pics by the way smile ) What bothers me about the Colorado experiment though is that appearantly a university was involved. Want did they have to gain?

Off topic: Do you have any research about super (carb/glycogen) compensation I could read? I am interested in the fenomena. What is the best loading protocol? Does it actually improve performance? How much more glycogen can the muscle store? And: Does it really make your muscle bigger? I saw a study some time ago that did not show any size increases from carb loading. Some guy from T-nation was involved in this, which I though was strange…
Anyhow, reading material would be appreciated! Or an article, but is for you to deside.

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Posted: 31 December 2011 01:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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I found some photos that show the difference between carb depleted and carb loaded.

This is Dave Gulledge (powerlifter), carb depleted:
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/1/1/.1122151094030.DSCN0115.JPG
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/1/1/.1122151145749.DSCN0120.JPG

Dave Gulledge, carb loaded:
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/1/1/.1122151194486.Picture023.jpg
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/1/1/.1122151238352.Picture024.jpg

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Posted: 31 December 2011 11:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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Thanks for the pic. It does look like it make a big difference, but the quality of the pics and the poses differ so it is hard to compare the two states. Also the lighting is different from pic to pic.

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