MetroEast Beast | Mon October 18, 2010
Great article Anoop!
October 09 2010
Glucosamine Chondroitin is the most popular supplement for joint pain. But does it really help?

Trials compared chondroitin sulphate, glucosamine sulphate, glucosamine hydrochloride, or the combination of any two with placebo or head to head.Hence the name network meta-analysis.
Joe Cannon MS CSCS
| Tue October 19, 2010
As always another good review Anoop. One thing I would add would be glucosamine sulfate vs. glucosamine HCL. Most commercial products contain the HCL version despite the fact that most research has used glucosamine sulfate. The NIH in the GAIT study a few yrs ago found the HCL version pretty much not effective. While two recent studies of glucosamine sulfate found similar results,when in doubt I’d still recommend the sulfate version for those with mild forms of the disorder until more is known.
Here is a related post I did on my site recently about glucosamine
http://supplement-geek.com/glucosamine-4-facts-you-dont-know/
Joe
Did you guys see this study?
Osteoarthritis Cartilage. 2010 Jan;18(1):34-40. Epub 2009 Jul 15.
Glucosamine but not ibuprofen alters cartilage turnover in osteoarthritis patients in response to physical training.
Petersen SG, Saxne T, Heinegard D, Hansen M, Holm L, Koskinen S, Stordal C, Christensen H, Aagaard P, Kjaer M.
Institute of Sports Medicine Copenhagen, Faculty of Health Sciences, Bispebjerg Hospital, University of Copenhagen, Denmark. sp12@bbh.regionh.dk
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To investigate changes in levels of serum cartilage oligomeric matrix protein (COMP) and urine c-telopeptide of type-2 collagen (CTX-II) as markers for cartilage turnover in patients with osteoarthritis (OA) of the knee, in response to muscle strength training in combination with treatment with glucosamine, ibuprofen or placebo
Osteoarthritis Cartilage. 2010 Jan;18(1):34-40. Epub 2009 Jul 15.
Glucosamine but not ibuprofen alters cartilage turnover in osteoarthritis patients in response to physical training.
Petersen SG, Saxne T, Heinegard D, Hansen M, Holm L, Koskinen S, Stordal C, Christensen H, Aagaard P, Kjaer M.
Institute of Sports Medicine Copenhagen, Faculty of Health Sciences, Bispebjerg Hospital, University of Copenhagen, Denmark. sp12@bbh.regionh.dk
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To investigate changes in levels of serum cartilage oligomeric matrix protein (COMP) and urine c-telopeptide of type-2 collagen (CTX-II) as markers for cartilage turnover in patients with osteoarthritis (OA) of the knee, in response to muscle strength training in combination with treatment with glucosamine, ibuprofen or placebo.
DESIGN: A 12-week double blind, placebo controlled, randomized study.
METHOD: Thirty-six elderly patients with bilateral tibiofemoral knee OA determined by radiography were randomly assigned to treatment with glucosamine (n=12), ibuprofen (n=12) or placebo (n=12) during 12 weeks of strength training of both legs with focus on the quadriceps muscle. Strength tests (5 repetition maximum), blood and urine sampling were performed before and after the training period. Serum COMP and urinary CTX-II were measured by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA).
RESULTS: All three groups increased their muscle strength following 12 weeks of strength training (P<0.001). Serum COMP levels were reduced in the glucosamine-treated group after the training period (P=0.012), whereas they did not change in the two other groups. Glucosamine reduced COMP statistically significant compared to both placebo and ibuprofen; the mean reduction with glucosamine was 13% vs placebo (P=0.0378) and 17% vs ibuprofen (P=0.0122). Urinary CTX-II levels did not change significantly in any of the three experimental groups.
CONCLUSION: Serum COMP decreased significantly over the 12-week training period when treatment with glucosamine was added to the training regimen. This suggests an effect by glucosamine on the response of the OA cartilage to a period of joint loading in humans with knee OA.
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Anoop | Fri October 22, 2010
HI TPT,
Thanks for the study.
They measured COMP. It is a classic example of surrogate measures. We don’t know if this decrease in COMP will translate to less pain and greater function in people with OA.
Hi, Anoop!
I’ve just had the result of my my (R) knee x-ray: Osteoarthritis, Subchondral Sclerosis. Our company doctor advised me to consume Flexxbon. But given study you mentioned, it is not necessary. Are there any other remedies and/or recommended exercises? I don’t feel any pain btw.
Thank you.
MetroEast Beast | Fri April 01, 2011
I recommend you consult an athletic trainer for the proper strengthening routine. Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevate, and Rehab. You need to build up the supporting muscles around the knee. I’ve also found recently that barefoot walking may have some minor benefits to the small stabilizers as well.
Anoop | Sat April 02, 2011
Hi Jeunx,
If you don’t have pain, forget about the whole thing!You will see a lot of weirds stuff on scans which has no relation to pain or future pain. I am sure if you x-rayed or imaged your spine, you will see a lot of problems too.
Hi MetroEast Beast.
Yes, I plan to visit Rehab doctor for consultation. Thank you!
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Hi Anoop.
Thank you, do you really think so? What about the popping sound my knee makes?
Anoop | Sat April 02, 2011
Hi Jeunx,
There changes are just normal part of ageing. did you read about my pain article? There are hundreds of studies showing abnormal imaging in ur knees and low back t o have no correlation with pain. Nor does it predict future pain.
The more you worry about this images, the more you will raise the threat level in the brain and increase the chances of getting pain. Clicking sounds is ok.
I have news: our body is full of dysfunctions.
Hi again, Anoop!
I get what you’re saying: thought creates form hehe. Will read about the pain article you wrote.
Thanks again for your time and assurance. Best regards.
Anoop | Sun April 03, 2011
Hi Jeunx,
It is more than that Jeunx. You should read the article and if you have any questions, ask in the comment section.
And you will have some I am sure!
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